Religious debate over abortion rights

1. In my view, we should do our utmost to not destroy life. Therefore, our focus should be on the proper sexual education and empowerment that is well known to reduce untimely, unwanted, and forced pregnancies form occurring to begin with. Terminating a life found to be untimely or unwanted is not empowerment nor a control of one's own body. In truth, if one were empowered and in control then untimely and unwanted pregnancy would not occur or only occur few and far between. A least far less often than the current number of abortions indicate. Sexual liberation isn't having sex, it is being in control of your sex whether in having it or not having it, and the same goes for men. And if your "sexual liberation" is simply a pleasing of self or another self then you have been liberated of nothing. You are bound to desire fulfillment, which is not liberation.

   Sex is not bad, even when not for reproduction. This isn't to make enemy of sex nor that of the sexual woman nor that of the sexual man nor that of the sexual they. But it is to advocate preparedness. And this preparedness is not abortion as abortion here is a reactionary medical tool.

   I think abortion should only be allowed for medically necessity such as clearing out a miscarriage and of other early termination of pregnancy that has naturally occurred. Otherwise, abortion is not and should not be allowed to be used as a form of contraceptive.

   As for incest, what if the incest is willing? Then everything above applies. Medically problematic pregnancies or states of birth resulting from incest is truly only a concern if the incest occurs among immediate family members or over generations. In first cousins for a single generation, the risk of passing on or creating abnormality is roughly that of two strangers having a child together. Therefore, incest and the concern of abnormality do not themselves justify abortion either.

   As for unwilling and or forced sex resulting in pregnancy, this is more delicate of a matter. And I won't address it now. Though my first statement of doing one's utmost to not destroy life I feel to be ever more relevant here.

2. HOLY BIBLE 18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. 19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. 20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord. 21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.

3. HOLY BIBLE 5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 for which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

4. A lot of religious people didn't read their bibles. If they did, they would have known that God himself was pro-abortion.

5. All y'all religious nuts. Eff y'all and your God!

6. are you an idiot or what? If my autonomy is above the right to live of whoever is in my body, does a Siamese twin have the right to commit suicide? but shooting himself in the other head? think prochoise42 think

7. We are divided into two sides, because we are being tempted to pick one of the two sides of a false dichotomy, to either let women abort or force women to gestate. Progressives pick the former and conservatives pick the latter. Both are evil; and it makes no sense to say "lead us not into temptation" if we are already in a temptation. That's why I say the following instead:

   "We are being tempted to choose one of the two sides of a false dichotomy, both of which are evil."

   Then, instead of saying "deliver us from evil," I say:

   "Show us the way of escape, which You have made, so that we might be delivered from evil."

   These changes to the Lord's Prayer are needed during an hour of global "temptation" (Rev. 3v10). The "way of escape" is promised in 1Cor. 10v13.

8. "The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain. they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.

9. THIS HAS NOTHINGBTP DO ABOUT YOUR SILLY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND YOUR BODY AND HEALTH CARE NONSENSE.BECAUSE COME ON .YOU KNOW YOUR FULL OF SH-T.ITS ABOUT YOU NOT WANTING TO TAKE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS.YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THAT RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE. LOOK HOW ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT AND OUT OF CONTROL YOU WOMEN ARE.FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHT TO MURDER BABIES

10. Are you against abortion…? ?
    Get ready to pay child SUPPORT and vote Republican….
    YOU FOR ABORTION… VOTE DEMOCRAT… SUPPORT WOMEN'S RIGHTS… NOT PAY CHILD SUPPORT FOR 18 + YEARS

11. How about the left's religion of Kali and Thugs?

12. why has no one thought of this . go to a parade in support of abortion . ask them would they abort a baby . take a pregnant cat and ask the people there if they aborted the kittens would that satisfy their death fetish .would they recoil in horror ? ask them what is more important a baby or a kitten

13. You women are in deep crap the child support office will become your best friend

14. hipocrisy :1st and 2nd amendments allows carry and using guns to kill, and nobody is allowed abortion

15. 0:07 "If you are religious…if you claim to be Christian or Catholic, you should be pro-life." The implication that anything but Christian/Catholic is anti-life, or that Christians/Catholics "should be"… Not everyone practices the same faith, And not everyone (within her faith) feels as she does.

    That woman would make enemies both inside and outside of her faith.

    Incidentally:
    "Woman dies after denied abortion" — The Young Turks (2012-NOV-14)
    "Woman dies due to abortion ban: 'We are a Catholic country'" — The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder (2012-NOV-15)

    "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…"
    — [Establishment & Free Exercise Clause] of the [First Amendment] of the [Constitution of the United States]

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    From those against abortion:
    2021-MAR-11: "East Texas lawmaker wants to make abortion punishable by death penalty" — CBS19
    2022-FEB-02: "Garrett Soldano says rape victims shouldn't have abortions: Baby inside may be next President" — Breakfast Club
    2022-MAR-16: "Rep. Rebecca Alexander sponsors anti-abortion bill in TN — HB 2779" — Washington County TN Democratic Party
    2022-APR-27: "Ohio considers total abortion ban without exemption for rape if Roe v. Wade is overturned" — News 5 Cleveland
    2022-APR-28: "Republican criticizes abortion bill because it has exceptions for rape and incest" — Heartland Signal
    2022-MAY-09: "Anti-choice supporters show what the movement is really about" — The Young Turks
    2022-MAY-15: "GOP senator proves Republicans have lost their damn minds!" — Rebel HQ
    2022-MAY-19: "Oklahoma Republican defends forcing child incest survivors to give birth" — Heartland Signal
    2022-JUN-01: "OMG: Republican gives JAW-DROPPING excuse for latest shooting" — Brian Tyler Cohen

    "Feel free to throw up. I know I did." — Dr. Joshua Keyes, "The Core" (2003)

16. Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill

17. A fundamental starting point for womens' choice over their own bodies would be to start demanding hysterectomies be her choice instead of being left up to a man or her husband.

18. THESE DISGUSTING WOMEN ARE FIGHTING FOR THEVRIGHT TO MURDER SOMEONE.
    LISTEN TO HOW INSANE THAT SOUNDS.

19. Who cares what women WANT. THIS is about whats right and wrong

20. BABY KILLERS AGAINST CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

21. Keep abortion legal. Let mothers choose the slain. After all, moms know.

22. Nothing is perfect, but by and large, abortion kills the right people. After all, abortion doesn't kill the children of good God fearing people; it kills the children of those who believe in abortion. Those are the children most likely to grow up and believe in abortion themselves. So, you see, abortion kills those most likely to ultimately believe in their own abortions. It's practically consent.

23. My body, my choice, even if my choice results in another's death by abortion or virus.

24. To all pro lifers. If you ban abortion you will have more monsters in the society. Crime rates goes up. Drugs abuse already difficult to maintain will become near impossible. Atheism will boom, more atheists in society. Far left liberal extremists will vastly overnumber middle ground moderates like me and right wing leaning folks. Chances of school shootings and mass shootings will go up. Gang activity. More welfare recipients. Squalor and degradation of cities. Suicide rates go up because some of them didn’t even wanted to be here in the first place and obviously neither did their parents, thanks a lot to you folks.

    Unwanted people creates unwanted problems in society. People look at their children, their nieces and nephews and think how can people abort these innocent babies? Well…. They are not your children and their parents are not like you and your family. They are being forced to rise another human beings that they did not want in the first place but you people didn’t let them get rid of. Growing up miserable they resorts to unimaginable things and it effects the others around them. Not just people but politics too.

    Guns are going to be banned and people in the future won’t have a chance to fend off against tyranny because these undesirables does school shootings and mass shootings. Those that didn’t live violent lives nor became drug addicts and managed to be come functional in society became hardcore liberals and converts your children into their ideologies.

    I mean how do you people not see this?

25. Bunch of Kali worshipers.

26. In Luke 1:41 in the Bible It states the 'baby' leaped in the womb not a 'fetus' or 'cluster of cells'…. Abortion is murder and I am praying for all those that think otherwise….

27. funny women will remember to take an abortion pill but cannot remember to take a birth control pill.

28. We eat fish eggs and we eat chicken eggs and we call them Omelette? I call that a parasite!

29. So it’s free to have an abortion and end a life but it’s $10k for IUI and about $30k for an IVF. Anybody see an issue here?

30. Great to see Lila Rose on here. She has fought for babies for years!

31. "There's nothing about abortion that will require anyone to abondon their faith."
    -Kamala Harris. 🤡🤡🤡

32. This segment is disingenuous.. there are non religious people that are against abortion. Not all women are for abortion. Btw, russia used to be non religious and now it is again.

33. Democrats will still find a way to kill black babies

34. I'm now a big supporter in mail order brides, nothing in America worth marrying.

35. Pro life people have never actually had to deal with real life. They stay isolated and naive in their churches.

36. He loves them all a single inch or seven feet tall

37. SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN MADE LEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE.WE SHOULDNT ALLOW WOMEN TO MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS LIKE THIS.THEY ARENT CAPABLE

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