Flagship smartphones just aren’t driving innovation anymore.
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32 thoughts on “Flagships aren’t driving innovation anymore”
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  2. Foldables are Samsung's new flagships; when the Fold receives the S Pen, it will come full circle. The real thing is that only a slew of companies are innovating. Apple understood it doesn't need to do it anymore, as most of their rich consumers don't even look at alternatives and constantly say android is trashing having never tried it…oh well!

  3. LG 50
    LG V60
    Asus Zenfone 6
    ROG Phone series and gaming phones in general
    Sony Xperia 1II

    These phones are the true pushers of innovation. Don't get me started on the things LG pioneered and are now standards on just about every phone out there
    Gaming phones started the trend of higher refresh rate and absurdly huge batteries, not to mention unique and creative designs instead of the same flat glass back with vertical cameras on the left
    Sony has been bringing truly innovative battery solutions for years

    All the while, Apple and Samsung only play the numbers and pumps up the price

    I'm personally gonna get the ROG Phone even though I'm not a gamer. It pushed a lot of innovative features that companies are now starting to adopt

  4. "Flagships aren't driving innovation anymore"
    High refresh rate phone screens, near bezel-less displays, and in-screen fingerprint sensors: Are we a joke to you?

  5. Innovation isn't change for change's sake. It means making things better. Arguably folding phones or swap out batteries for three times the price aren't better at all. They're just more unusual.

  6. Picked up a Pixel 3a XL from my friend for like $150 USD. Gotta say, this video pretty much nails why I don't see a big difference between it and the S10 I was using since last June.

  7. LG's V Series has shown plenty of innovation, I think, just look at the V60 for instance with it's dual screen cover and pen support (something that no one else can rival). Xiaomi has a whole series of flagship spec smartphones, Mi Mix lineup, dedicated to innovative designs Mi Mix 3 being probably the best notchless implementation on a flagship currently on the market. Yet people (including you reviewers) would rather rave on about iPhones that have looked the same for the best part of a decade and have only had under hood changes going on because "the echo system". For years Oneplus was innovating software and hardware optimization with flagship spec phones and serving up incredible deals for customers (I honestly believe that if not for Oneplus, manufacturers like samsung wouldn't have given us phones with more than 4GB RAM, and that type C ports and fast charging wouldn't be a mainstay either. Just look at Apple if you think I'm reaching). But year in, year out all reviewers would basically say about a oneplus device was "Oxygen OS is dope, but no IP rating, no wireless charging, you're better off with a flagship from Samsung or Apple". There are countless other examples of smartphone manufacturers who tried to innovate with their flagships but were met with discouraging feedback and so they decided to conform with what apple was doing because as far as they can see we, the consumers, don't want innovative a new things. But hey, at least we have foldables. Can't wait for the day they replace the metal-glass slab purgatory we are inhabiting.

  8. Phone innovation idea:

    Eye control. Just look at your phone and you can use your eyes.. blink select app, roll eyes back, wink show menu, close eyes close app, double blink home etc blah blah 👍😂🤣

  9. I have no reasons to pay near a thousand dollars for flagship that killed headphone jack. Now every flagship comes without it. Good. Top tier midrange can already serve what I need daily + bigger battery + powerful yet low battery consumption chipset and the most importantly it is affordable and it even has a headphone jack!

    So dear flagship makers, no more for me.

  10. The only innovation atm is folding phones like the Z Flip and Galaxy Fold. Flagship phone space otherwise is dead boring.

  11. It's 2020 and Im still loving my Samsung Note 9. That I still find it more beautiful(aesthetically) than other newer flagships…and it is still a beast in performance. 🙂

  12. Excellent video and summary of the smartphone landscape. The flagship market has become over-saturated and everything is just the same with no real distinguishable features. It is silly how a phone can be a status symbol and this is one of the key reasons why people opt for the flagship and why flagships are marketed to the point where people have little or no awareness of other brands or ranges. A mid-range device would satisfy most people's smartphone needs anyway.

  13. Flagships are now nothing more than a smart camera.
    It used to be an 'all in one' tool that can do "anything".
    Now, with the lack of a headphone jack, SD card, IR remote, heart-rate monitor and removable batteries, i'm no longer excited about new phones.
    The last good phone, was the Galaxy S5!

  14. Do we even need innovation in smartphones going forward? My phone takes pictures, plays games, takes notes, etc. What more do we need??!! The topic of smartphone innovation bores me to tears

  15. It's easier/ safer to introduce innovations in the lower / middle end range and see if it's liked then improve and put it in the higher end range afterwards.
    I've gone from a phone which had a single camera with a 4K screen to one with a triple camera, 90hz screen and oled and fast UFS 3.0 storage which costs less than the previous phone at their respective launch price. But they have almost the same footprint in taking up space in my pocket… Sony XZ premium to a Realme X2 Pro.
    Now the camera doesn't match the likes of a Pixel, P40 Pro, Oppo X2 Pro or S20, but it is plenty good enough for me.

  16. It seems the attempt to innovate takes priority over actually perfecting existing technology and designs. Innovation shouldn't just focus on hardware either. Software is generally average and the user experience comes second to adding useless proprietary gimicky apps. And how about someone make a phone out of a material other than fragile, slippery and fingerprint magnet glass? I find those colored glassback phones useless and you have to immediately slap a case on them. Phones are justting larger and more boring each time – they all seem to be unrefined and unfinished products that never get improved upon in the following generation.

  17. Even with the current flagship phones the majority of users only utilize probably 50% of the features offered by the phones. Only a tiny number of power users/tech enthusiasts will utilize more features offered. In other words, flagship's features today are already overkill.

  18. LOL. You gotta understand that the smartphone innovation has hit a plateau state for now. Display-wise, all flagships are now in full screen with bezels getting thinner and thinner. There's nothing left to maximize the innovation for it, except if you take account the under-display camera which is still premature to implement. In terms of processing power, smartphones have gotten REALLY fast that some flagships are even more powerful than many PCs, some even have even higher RAM (*cough* S20 ULTRA). Cameras have also been just a race of gimmicks like macro or telephoto with standard and wide-angle being the "primary" now.

    Point being, looking at the bright side, smartphones nowadays have gotten really good that the dramatic innovation we have been waiting for won't even come for at least two to three years. In 2007 people were going crazy over a phone with VGA displays and 2 hrs battery life with slow processing power but now I always see tech reviewers complaining over extra small features and gimmicks that isn't present on a certain phone. Maybe you guys should just stop being over obsessive.

  19. There is no more innovation because theres a new fuckin phone every fuckin year..i mean how much can you upgrade your technology to a selling point in one year, repeatedly for the last 8 years

  20. Nowadays, Youtube and other Online Media reviewers praise mainstream companies like Apple, Samsung and OnePlus for their flagship products, sidelining the truth about asking price for their products. This ditched other companies market share, helping major players only to grow and dictate on industry.

  21. I thought about this and talked about it till I'm blue in the face. I am a huge Samsung fan since the S2 currently have the S 20 ultra snapdragon version. But I do not care what anyone says or how many companies copy and do it a hole in the screenOr any kind of notch just is bad design. See I would rather have like the pixel 4XL looks then a notch or a punch hole I hide mine on my S20I just do not understand it. It's a very minimal bezel is not badd and gives you a spot to hold the phoneI do not care how many of these companies try to tell me different it's just bad design…..🤷‍♂️

  22. I upgrading my phones about 3.5+ years and I still use it same behavior but of course better cause better specs.
    All I need is upgraded midrange phone. Why even bother with high priced phones?
    Edit:
    I mean, I am the only one that enjoy my own photo. Nobody likes on my social media.
    I dont even like to play high graphics games on Android because its Pay To Win.

    How pathetic…

  23. Absolutely. It's just capitalism. The bright shiny object. Anyone who spends top bucks for flagship phone every year is either stupid or has more money than sense. Buy a mid range phone, Android in particular. Much cheaper. Specs are just fine. Upgrade every few years. Stop being a smuck for tech companies. Also, though I hate to say it, we can thank the Chinese companies for pushing companies like Samsung to make great mid range phones. (I have one). A rare case of real competition.

  24. Why is it that when we buy a laptop for $600-800, we expect it to stay functional for at least 10 years but when we buy a smartphone like iPhone for $1000+, we don't expect it to stay functional for 15-20 years?

  25. Samsung/LG/Huawei's flagship phones have always had a ton of features – and they still do.
    Wasn't Samsung (moreso than others) regularly getting criticised for having too many features back in the TouchWiz days? 🤔

    If you're defining "innovation" as having some crazy feature like being bendable (thank LG for that one), modular, foldable, pop-up/rotatable cameras etc, then you're inherently tapping into a niche market. To provide such features presents additional manufacturing costs, so anyone buying these types of devices will be on a (relatively) high budget and be open to using a more unusual device. Most people don't want to deal with any added risks outside of what they're already used to.

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