Engine guru Keith Dorton helps build our Ford flathead with 3/4 race cam, high compression heads and 3 deuces.
Part 1: Junkyard Ford Flathead Becomes A Classic Hot Rod V8
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
ARP: Assembly Lubricant, for Engine Assembly and Fastener Installation, Ultra Torque, 1 Pint, Each
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ARP: Cylinder Head Studs, Hex, 8740 Chromoly, Black, for Use with Edelbrock #1115 Heads, Ford, 239 Flathead, Kit
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Clevite: Main Bearing Set
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Dupli-Color: Paint, Engine, Enamel with Ceramic Resin, Flat Gray Primer, 12 oz., Aerosol, Each
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Dupli-Color: Paint, Engine, Enamel with Ceramic Resin, Gloss, Red, 12 oz., Aerosol, Each
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Edelbrock: Carburetor Balancing Instrument, Multiple Carburetor Setup Tool, 1 and 2-Barrel, Round Top, Uni-Syn “A”, Each
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Edelbrock: Cylinder Heads, Bare, Aluminum, Natural, Ford, Flathead V8, Pair
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Edelbrock: Ford Flathead Generator Stud Kit for 1938-48 Fords, Kit
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Edelbrock: Intake Manifold/Carburetors, Three 3-Bolt 94s, Linkage, Fasteners, Ford, Flathead, V8, Kit
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Edelbrock: Mini Fuel Block Kit, Hex, Aluminum, One 1/4 in NPT Inlet, Three 1/4 in NPT Outlets, Fittings, Hose, and Clamps
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Federal-Mogul Corporation: Fel-Pro, Gaskets, Full Set, Ford, 239, Flathead V8, 1949-53, Set
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Federal-Mogul Corporation: Fel-Pro, Head Gasket, Copper/Fiber, 3.420 in. Bore, .062 in. Compressed Thickness, Ford, Flathead V8, Each
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Mallory Performance: Distributor, Unilite, Mechanical Advance, Gear Not Included, Ford 1949-53, 12v, Flathead, 239, Each
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Melling: Oil Pump, Standard-Volume, Ford, Flathead V8, Each
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Milodon: Oil Filter Relocation Kit, Single Filter, 24 in. Length Hoses, Chevy, Chrysler, Ford, Kit
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Pertronix: Patriot Exhaust, Headers, Clippster, Steel, Natural, Passenger Car, Chevy, Small Block LS, Pair
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Pertronix: Patriot Exhaust, Headers, Tight Tuck, Full-Length, Steel, Ceramic Coated, Street Rod, Ford, Flathead V8, Pair
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Powermaster: Alternator, PowerGEN, Internal Regulator, 90 Amp, 12 V, Black Powdercoated, Each
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Royal Purple: Assembly Lube, Max-Tuff, Synthetic, 8 oz, Each
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Royal Purple: Motor Oil, Break-in, Mineral, 10W30, Quart, Each
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Sparco: Driving Suit, Jade Top, One-Piece, Three Layer, Fire Retardant Cotton, Medium, White/Blue, Each
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Summit Racing: Fluidampr Harmonic Balancer, Internal Balance, Steel, Chrome, Ford, Flathead, V8, Each
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Summit Racing: Isky Racing Cam and Lifter Kit
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Accel: Ignition Coils, Stealth Supercoils, Coil Pack Style, Epoxy, Black, Round, Harley-Davidson, Pair
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ARP: Main Bolt Kit
Cometic Gasket, Inc.: Head Gasket, 4.100 in. Bore, Multi-layer Steel, 0.030 in. Compressed Thickness, Chrysler, 6.1L Hemi, Each
Dupli-Color: VHT Copper Gasket Cement
Goodson Shop Supplies: EPL-120 Engine Pre Lube Tank, 12QT.
Goodson Shop Supplies: Powered Ring Filer with Integral De-burring Wheel
Hals Garage: Used Original oil pan and oil pump pick-up
Scat Crankshafts: Scat 304 c.i. Internal Balanced Rotating Assembly
The Industrial Depot: Fasteners, Hardware and Shop Supplies
Total Seal: Custom Piston Ring Set, 3.3750″
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None of the "original go-fast parts" were "developed" for "racing" or even passenger cars at all. They were for "truck motors" and to improve engine "breathing" and also provide the necessary fuel delivery increases to "truck motors" would be "reliable" AND "durable" in "hot and high" areas back when all cross-country "trucking" required SERIOUS "mountain climbing" back when "water stops" were more frequent than gas "fill ups" and getting a "flattiie" just a LITTLE "warm" mean a "boil over" soon after and catastrophic engine failure beyond all "economic repair" shortly after that.
There is no REPAIRING a cracked TRUCK BLOCK going back IN a TRUCK no matter what "fixes" there might be for "minor cracks" in a "high performance" flathead "build" for a parade-duty trailer-queen "hot rod" that benefits from "modern" aftermarket cooling systems and a pile of "upgrades" that if anything keep the engine "cold" relative to real world engine OPERATING TEMP under a "full load" for "long distances".
All of the OHV "conversions" were "marketed" to flathead "truckers". Same goes for aluminum "multi-carb" intakes and "high compression" cylinder heads that necessitate MORE OCTANE and LESS TIMING.
MORE OCTANE MEANS LESS ENERGY CONTENT PER UNIT OF FUEL "MASS". MEANING MORE FUEL FOR THE SAME POWER. AND FUEL IS A "COOLANT". LESS TIMING BECAUSE THE HIGHER THE OCTANE THE HARDER THE FUEL IS TO LIGHT AND KEEP LIT. MEANING IT NEEDS MORE "HEAT OF COMPRESSION" TO HELP THE SPARK. THAT TAKES MORE TIME. AND THAT ADDITIONAL TIME HELPS "COOL" THE ENGINE PARTS.
AND A COLDER "EXPLOSION" OVERALL.
ALL "CRUTCHES" TO HELP BOAT ANCHOR FLATHEAD "CAR MOTORS" SURVIVE IN THE FORD "BIG TRUCKS" THEY WERE NEVER EVER "DEVELOPED" FOR BUT WHICH FORD DESPERATEY NEEDED "MARKET SHARE" BECAUSE THE REAL FORD "COMPETITION" POST-WWI WAS NOT "CHEVY". THAT SHIP WAS ALREADY SETTING SAIL BECAUSE EVERY CHEVY "MOTOR" FOR AND AFTER WWI WAS A STATE OF THE ART "TRUCK MOTOR" FROM DAY 1 OF "DEVELOPMENT" AND ONCE IT PROVED "RELIABLE" IN "HEAVY DUTY" CHEVY TRUCKS WITH CONSTANT-MESH TRANNIES AND "JUICE BRAKES" AND "ROAD GEARS" IT WAS A GUARANTEED "RELIABLE" PASSENGER CAR "MOTOR". AND ALL CHEVY "MOTORS" WERE OHV WITH DISTRIBUTOR IGNITION WITH AUTOMATIC "SPARK ADVANCE" AND DOWNDRAFT CARBS WITH PRESSURIZED FUEL SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE "STATE OF THE ART" IN EVERY "PRICE CLASS" WHICH IS WHY CHEVY NEVER BOTHERED "COMPETING" WITH FORD FOR "AFFORDABILITY".
THE "AVERAGE WORKING MAN" WORKING IN A FACTORY FOR A "WAGE" THAT WAS ACTUALLY A SET "SALARY" WITH NO "OPPORTUNITY FOR ADVANCEMENT" IN AN "INDUSTRIAL CENTER" WAS NEVER CHEVY'S TARGET "MARKET" AND CHEVY WASN'T AFTER "GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS" TO THE "LOWEST BIDDER".
MODEL TS WERE TECHNOLOGICALLY "OBSOLETE" ON "DAY 1" IN THEIR "ACCESSORY SYSTEMS" COMPARED EVEN TO "HIT AND MISS" ENGINES AND THE "NEW" MODEL A "MOTOR" RAPIDLY BECAME THE "MODEL B" AND THEN THE "MODEL C" WHILE HENRY WAS "INVENTING" HIS FLATHEAD V8 ENGINE HE CALLED "TWO FOUR-CYLINDERS SHARING A CRANKCASE" BECAUSE HE WAS AN IDIOT "ENGINEER".
AND IT WASN'T "CHEVY" FORD EVER HAD TO "COMPETE WITH" FOR "SALES" IN THE "FLATHEAD ERA" CHEVY NEVER PARTICIPATED IN.
IT WAS DODGE AND PLYMOUTGH AND CHRYSLER AND ALL THE OTHER "AUTO MAKERS" ALSO STILL 100% STUCK IN THE "FLATHEAD ERA" THAT FORD HAD TO "BEAT" TO KEEP FROM GOING "BROKE:.
I know this video is 3 years old but, I wonder what the total cost of this build was?
I built a flathead for my father almost 40 years ago, I was in the tenth grade!! It was sweet , it had an offenhouser three duece intake and heads blowing thru custom headers and 12” glasspacks. I will never forget driving this on my last day of high school!!!
Keith Dorton is a legend! Much respect to that man, he's been doing it since before most of us were even born.
Flip-flop manifolds with new cam grind with high side exhaust manifold feeding two turbochargers mounted on the front of engine feeding two lower outside intake manifolds, now shared center port is an intake not exhaust port
I just looked up the rotating assembly. Under $2,500. I had figured over $3500. That aint bad , for what you get.
8:1 is a great compression ratio for turbo and DI. Is the flathead really dead, or is it just waiting for it's glorious return?
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49-53 8-BA great set up yall.
Ceux que tout hot rod doit avoir ❤
It's cool, but 159 horse power after all of that?
Oh Yeah… Built one of these with a buddy in a stripped down '42 Ford. Won a lot of money back in the sixties in Pasadena, Ca.
Great interesting and educational video, the little over a half hp per cubic inch makes you appreciate what a big deal it was when factory engines were first rated at one hp per cubic inch in '56 + '57. I can remember going to the drags for the first time in '63, and even then the flathead drag cars still received a great deal of interest…
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Hm. All that work to make 159hp or in other words slightly more than a 1940 Horch 951. Then again, Americans never have been known for their engineering prowess although having good roots with being largely of German or Dutch descent.
❤ the video!
In my humble opinion, I believe that the flathead V-8 and the 300 six cylinder are the best engines Ford ever produced. That little monster sounds like music compared to the crap they make now.
GOD BLESS AMERICA–IF I DON'T LOVE AMERICAN ENGINEERS, THEN I AM A LIAR. EXCELLENT VIDEO ON THE FORD FLATHEAD V8
Next build it into a see through engine lol
Does that flat have three mains to hold the crank and that’s it
Are the holes at the back of the block fir adapting a remote filter? Ir do you need to drill them?
How or what did they do too the 3 exhaust ports to accomodate the inket tune.
Both are cool! A shop teacher’s dream! Like to do a flat head. I have done TR3 motors. A tracker motor! RWB ❤🎉
The gain of flat heads engines is there are not big inertia loads over the valve train ,it works like an overhead cam, with the differentia that have less weight and less moving parts, only one camshaft instead of four and all the chains and sprockets, i think we must built again flat heads engines with bigger cu. in. capacity. Excuse my English because i speak Spanish
I am from DR my daily car is a 1960 dodge m37 military light truck