Airtex Engineering Tour – EricTheCarGuy
http://www.airtexproducts.com/airtexhome.html
While at Airtex I was able to tour their engineering facilities so have a look at some of the behind the scenes testing that goes on at their facility.
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Time 5:45. "Flamable Gas" facility with opes gasoline tanks and a lot of wires connected with terminals – it does NOT seem to be safe. Room full of gasoline vapor, one spark from loose wire and everything goes BOOM.
I don't think this testing facility is used anymore. Since Rank Group moved production to Mexico and China. All that is left in this little town is this testing facility and the "general office" which they can't sell because of ground water contamination.
How are their water pumps?
as a independant mechanic for the last 35 years. i can say without a doubt . every airtex unit i have EVER bought has failed. and now i hear ,airtex has bought "rich – porter" which WAS one of the only sources for mass air flow meters.
Curt – As always, excellent – good to see you.
you need to go for carter ac delco and those are the best one air tex makes horrible fuel pump and its crap when they say its installed wrong they just dont want to look bad
That is all Airtex does is when one of their fuel pumps goes bad.Say it was installed wrong 100% most of the time.Put one in a Pontiac Bonnevile once,would not run.Removed it out of the tank and it ran.There was something wrong and was installed correctly.Installed 6 in a row all Airtex,a Chevy truck and failed quickly.
sucks for you ya, but ya worked for me, ive exceeded my warranty already without a hickup.and ya like i said, what i didnt like was th vapor seal didnt fit so i got high as hell twice and i had to cut my connector off for a different one. will i buy from airtex again? ya but not smilar to what i got. for a honda that idc about? YUP!
the Delpi's come with a new plug because Airtex is the company that redesigned it for them! They are the ones that came up with the redesign. When my silverado pump fails I too will get a Delphi pump because they have strictly OEM quality standards.. But I'm positive it will be an Airtex pump inside. GM had issues with the plugs because they weren't built robust enough to carry the current for the pump therefore many of them melted..
When it fails,Airtex turns down for warranty called installer error and have been through this.Go look on the box of most Carquest fuel pump boxes,say Delphi on them now.Carquest had high failure rates when Airtex was their supplier and I know a former Carquest auto parts store owner that seen this a lot.
Still won't install Airtex fuel pumps,the number of failures went right down when Carquest switched to Delphi.I know a former owner of a Carquest auto parts store,he saw this happen.The Delphis come with a new plug in for the 2001 and down Chevy and GMC fullsize trucks,warranty is void when this plug in is not replaced.The plug in corroded and this was a problem.
Been through that.Had in a Pontiac Bonneville for a fuel pump replacement.Would not run installed in the tank.Ran when removed from the sending unit.Airtex called it installer error and it was not this.Chrysler does use Airtex for their OE fuel pumps,somehow they don't fail.
No they are not,Delphi is a company that makes their own products for GM.
Most Delphi pumps are made by Airtex…
QC has improved tremendously within the past few yrs..
Bosch are garbage… A lot of Delphi and Delco pumps are reboxed Airtex pumps..get your facts straight before you bash
Ive had my airtex fuel pump for 41,000miles and its never given me problems. The only things i didnt like was the vapor seal didnt fit so i had to use the one off my old pump and i had to cut off the connector and solder a new on. But it all seemed to pan out ok
Airtex fuel pump sucks, that's why i only use BOSH,Acdelco and Denso
u still dont want to run your car low it all becasue its still not good for it
Airtex is notorious for poor quality. Even failures right out of the box! I think they are trying to fix their reputation with this video.
Delphi and AC Delco for GM only.I won't install an Airtex fuel pump,replaced 6 of them in a Chevy truck once.Carquest used to use Airtex for their fuel pump supplier,dumped them and switched to Delphi.
@JTheGuitarPlayer Pretty sure they do but I bet it has a hole in it. 🙂
@Filmaker25 Quite some time actually, I think they told me they had been doing it since the 20's but I don't remember for sure.
This is amazing video. How long has Airtex been in business?
@MrFer5900 He did know his stuff very well. I'm also hoping to go back soon and show you one of those tests where they put a pump through it's paces, it's an actual rig that they use for just that purpose. Thanks for your comment.
@dryroasted99 Depends on how much work your going to do with it and what kind. If your using grinders a lot then you will need a bigger tank but just air tools on weekend jobs you won't need one that big. Perhaps something in the 25-30 gallon size with 90-125cfm.
excellent tour, great questions, learned a lot. thank you!
You can tell this man knows his business. There is no question he can't answer and from what I understand they can run tests on their pumps until failure if needed. I am very impressed.
Thanx Eric. I hope this man understands what exposure may mean to his business. I have never heard of this company before. Advertisement is gold.
@happy543210 Actually we both win as long as you learned something,.
@CoolasIce2 I give up! you win!
@moofushu I wouldn't bother to drop the tank just to clean it out. I replaced my pump after 140 K miles expecting to see a lot of sediment in the tank and was surprised not to see any.
@ndoorlag Thank you!
@redhorse554det1 Yep, when I wanna know something I try and find the source. Thanks for the comment.
@dcinhere Yep but it's got special vents as well as other safety precautions to keep it from getting to dangerous levels.
@superfootdan Remember you need air to start a fire and if the pump is submerged in gas it won't ignite. If it was a danger I'm sure the manufacturers would have done all they can to prevent such a thing form happening as they would get the pants sued off of them if anything like that happened.
@CoolasIce2 That's exactly right, it also helps cool the pump. I love learning stuff like this. Thanks for the comment.
@tinydx95t2 That was the goal. Thanks very much for your comment, always good to see you man.
@84W150 An odd situation indeed, thanks for the comment.
@KISSITPEOPLE Yes he does.
For those of you worried about the pump starting a fire in the tank, you need to remember that the pump is immersed. Fire needs fuel and oxygen. Immersing the pump removes one of the two from the equation essentially.
excellent tour and spot on questions.good to hear from the chief eng.
Again thanks to Airtex! I wonder if we ever test a Delphi module against an Airtex pump and then compare and contrast? Probably in their R&D group! Touche for Eric's questions at 9:15, he nailed it! GM rather than admitting the pattern failure, in their pumps, which have high PSI demands (55 psi to 62 psi), insist that the tank be kept 1/4 full or it's the "owners fault." LOL!! This theory is postulated by GM to avoid warranty fulfillment!
this has to be your cleanest video ever!!!
Great vid eric!
I hate to say this but both my blazers and my s10 had those pumps put in and lasted only 3 to 7 months and were a nightmare to get the warranty replacement . I had the tanks dropped and replaced with a new tank and a airtex pump new in the box and it burned up in the same time period. I would not buy or use one until they fix the warranty problems thru autozone and NAPA both places told me to buy OEM
pumps for the chevy trucks or vans