In todays episode i bust out the measuring tape and blow apart my dreams of an easy powerplant & suspension swap. But thats ok! We will make it work and have a better car in the end because of it.

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31 thoughts on “Time to Rethink the Engine Placement…”
  1. Glad you came around to the only way it CAN be done, I've seen V12's shoehorned into these cars for years, and in the Z community the small block into Z is a very common project, seems you could have saved a lot of trouble just looking into it more. Like laying the radiator down to make it fit. I notice you seem to do everything in the hardest way possible, but that is part of the charm of your show I suppose….

  2. As much as I love seeing the use of a computer to work things out, sometimes it easier to put in whats certain then work out the finer points on the go. Still binge watching it though

  3. Should have just shown the sub frame on video and how the engine mounts to make it easy to see what you are on about but also someone may have seen a way it could be done

  4. The sequence of videos on the playlist is all over the place. There is no sequence here. Interesting build, but the jumping around is kind of disappointing

  5. Do a mustang kyle thing
    (He has the engine cover poking through the hood and he also has fancy suspension in front of the engine(his car is super wide though :p))

  6. Isn't the engine being further back good?
    It brings the center of gravity further into the center of the car, which should improve cornering.

  7. Snap Oversteer? Well a car with centralized mass will eventually break loose, but it will grip and handle to a much higher level before it does as compared to the understeering pig you were contemplating. The simplest way to understand how different engine placements will behave is to exaggerate the concepts in your mind. Imagine if a Porsche 911 had a 10 foot long rod protruding from the back of the car with a thousand pound ball mounted on the end. When you let off the gas in a turn, the inertia in that ball wants to keep moving forward and outward, so it does. That is the throttle-off oversteer that thinned the ranks of doctors and lawyers driving 930's in the late 70's. That's what happens in a 911 with an engine hanging off the ass end behind the rear wheels.

    Put that same thousand pound ball on a 10 foot pole protruding from the front of the car and what have you got? An understeering pig that plows through turns, and looses grip at a much lower threshold than if the same weight sat in the center of the car.

    Moral of the story. Make another negative jig for the BMW front suspension. Make your own crossmember(s). Mount the engine as close to the firewall as you can, and it will handle brilliantly.

  8. You need to model the transmission length. Looks like it's going to be very close to the rear axle.

  9. Lay the radiator down. Why not considering ditching the m5 subframe all together? The width looks like it’s going to be an issue and you’ll save yourself a bunch of headaches by just throwing a Mustang 2 front end kit on it or something similar.

  10. You're accounting for worst case scenario. I think once you get a more accurate shape of the engine it will fit better.

  11. What about a dry sump system to help lower the motor down as much as possible? That should give you some more clearance with the hoot and cowl. As far as the radiator, you can just put some angle on it and make some ducting to direct air up into it.

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