ABC News’ Devin Dwyer speaks with a teen who is at the center of a Supreme Court case on freedom of speech, tackling the authority schools have over student speech off campus on social media.
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Ok, I get schools punishing legitimate cyberbullying, and that should happen even off school grounds. Yet that's NOT WHAT HAPPENED in this specific case. The girl absolutely should win, because all she did was rant, she didn't "threaten" the school, nor any specific person. Yet there should also be a carveout where schools can still punish legitimate cyberbullying. It should be LIMITED to that and only that, but still.
They don’t shut down school bullies nor school shooters,.
She was never arrested, Tased, expelled, or punished in any real way. The school didn't stop, remove, or ban her freedom to speak. She and her parents voluntarily signed a contract agreeing not to do exactly what she did… identify herself as a representative of the school on the internet, and claim that she hated it. So they granted her obvious wish to be relieved of that horrible burden. Then suddenly, she was traumatized by being given her freedom.
Which ever way the Supreme Court decides, this isn't the atrocity she is making it out to be.
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She's allowed to express herself however the hell she wants on her social media. That school has no jurisdiction there.
You can go onto any social media now and see gang signs and guns being held by kids who go to school everyday. What you will end up with is schools who expel students like this cheerleader but do not equally enforce this rule against those the school administrators fear.
Schools should be teaching consequences of your ACTIONS!!!
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That father not thinking it's WRONG says a LOT!!! My kid would never even THINK about saying such a thing!!!
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Pathetic.
Responsibility for one's thoughts and actions – especially one's verbal actions – should be taught early at home, in every home, so that the Right to Freedom of Speech can be meaningful. As it is, in America where anything you can get away with goes, Freedom of Speech, with and without the social media megaphone, is an absolute joke. Some are socially allowed to exercise it, some are not. This is a serious flaw of Democracy.
What about cyberbullying then? That stuff usually takes place off-campus…
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An obvious threat to national security and interstate commerce.
So if you join the kkk and burn a cross away from school property… its a form freedom of speech?
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A good f'ing lord. It was a teenager sounding off when pissed about something – it what they flipping do!!! Nobody was threatened. So, instead of helicopter parents we now have helicopter schools. Instead of punishing the girl, simply have a talk with her for the purpose of making sure she is alright. Instead of being lazy, be supportive.
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It starts at school. They some times move on to other social media and then you have to deal with people abusing free speech. It's a never ending situation. By the way, it's not just teenagers who get cyber bullied. People are harassed for having different political or religious beliefs. 🙄 Still, schools shouldn't be able to punish anyone over anything posted online unless they do it at school. Perhaps if they made it against the rules to bring electronic devices to school it might help prevent things.
False equivalence. They are not breaking the law dumbass.
These guy are total morons.. They have no idea what he is talking about.. pathetic. I hope the supreme court doesn't follow this woke nonsense. If they do their job they will reject this immediately.
Advocates of free speech, by default, are okay with bullying
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"I believe there is a place and a forum for that"…. yea there is place and forum for that. How about on the weekend, off school campus, on a platform that deletes messages after a few hours… oh wait. Cyberbullying and threats of violence are different and should be handled differently, but she was doing neither of those things. If we disallow children to vent in acceptable ways we will only create more explosive and caustic scenarios further down the road.
it was after school, no threats were made. at that point its on the parents. These schools need to worry about what's going in the inside the classroom and leave this girl alone. it's stupid, don't apologize for it, they are just trying to be Nazis to the students.
Wouldn’t the online bullying better be protected by police?
How about growing a spine? Someone says something you don't like or insults you what do you care? It only matters if you make it.
Bullshit teachers overreaching and trying to protect the blatant powerplay
My opinion is this : It's a case by case basis. If a student criticized a large body like the school its fine. But if a student taunts and harrasses someone, then schools should have the power to use appropriate action to help the victim, since these awful messages can affect them at said school.
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Students should learn good behavior. Oftentimes, they can learn bad behavior from their parents or friends. People who complain about getting cancelled or censored are really complaining about themselves not being courteous or proper to other people. Norms of decency and respect to each other keep society civil and prevent unwanted deaths, whether by suicide or mass shootings. Politicians, news channels, and other public figures back down only when they get taken to court, which is very late since the damage to society is already done but at least slows down the moral decay. It is better for students to learn that words have consequences now, before they say or do something that may hurt their livelihood in the future. It’s tough love and not pleasant, but necessary nonetheless.
We don’t need to get political and get dragged down into the cultural war nonsense. As a libertarian, just be nice, don’t say or do anything to hurt people, leave other people’s stuff alone, and keep your hands to yourself. It’s not that complicated.
Freedom of speech is sometimes used to bully people same with stating your own opinion. The bullies always use this as an excuse to get away with the consequences!
So this all stemmed from her acting like a little brat for not making varsity? I don't even know where to begin. Cases like these have a massive impact on other cases. She wasn't on school property or time but she showed aggression against the school and was enrolled there at the time. I can't help but compare this to the Capitol mob who are using the freedom of speech defense for their cases many of whom have lost their jobs because of their rhetoric that they posted willingly online. Yet some of the Capitol mob committed lesser to violent crimes and she(teenager) didn't. Also consider if the school was a private school or government funded school.
I agree with the school. It is a school's job to police the internet. They should have total control of what their students say and do online. You know what, screw it, the school should be allowed to punish the parents of their students if said student does something they don't like online.
Free speech is a sticky situation that really matters the context and the parties involved. This situation is similar to what happened to the Mandalorian actress that got fired for, guess what, free speech, and people defended Disney's decision. One can argue that Disney is operating as a private company that has the right to decide how it wants to be perceived because free speech can damage a company's profit. Conservatives hate the media because the media is dominantly liberal but these companies are just practicing the American rights that conservatives also stand for, which is a business that's not heavily controlled by the government. But what if free speech harms, like kids being bullied or death threats, is this just the negative impacts of free speech and we just have to deal with it? Are both sides of politics too stupid to tell what intent is anymore and would rather quickly resort to canceling, expelling, firing, and discrediting? Or should we start teaching kids to be careful with what they say even if it's on the internet, luckily this girl learns her mistake in school instead of her job. I'm not blaming her, this is just the world we're living in now.
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If you’re getting cyber bullied at school why not reported to the school and have the school directly talk to the kids parents that is bullying you. If that parent still allows their child to bully another kid then those parents should be punished or the kid should be picked up. Feel free to take this idea.
Bullying is different from being able to say stuff about school. Cyberbullying laws need to be made tougher in the US as well as everywhere else, but they shouldn't be allowed to do stuff like kick people off of a team or expel them from school for using bad language or saying stuff that the school does not necessarily like.
That teacher’s argument is nonsensical. The teachers are not in charge of life. The girl only expressed her opinion. She did not threaten anyone and that’s the heart of the matter. Too bad about the woman who lost a son but she is wrong. If there were theats, the police/legal system would be the proper authorities to deal with it and afterwards the school can enforce a court ordered ruling, not establish their own in perpetuity search and punishment. Different ballgame if it was at school or a school event, they would have some say then.